As I was reading through facebook, I saw the vitriol expressed by many well meaning Christians in an uproar over the supreme Courts ruling on marriage. Some of the reponses also were not well meaning and simply legalistic, mean, disrespectful, and unloving.
So, for the record, here is my opinion…
I am hard pressed to be all up in arms over the Supreme Court decision on marriage.
We, Christian believers, did not protest or speak when sodomy was legalized. We did not protest or speak when governments no longer penalized people for adultery. We did not protest when pornography became acceptable and cable TV started to bring it to EVERY subscribers home (yes, if you have HBO or SHOWTIME you have porn in your house).
We are more concerned about keeping our idea of marriage for non-believers than we are about unmarried church members fornicating and having babies. Or, with clergy members fornicating or molesting children.
All these abominations IN THE CHURCH are ignored while we attempt to legislate and govern the life of unsaved people.
So I am hard pressed to be torn up over the next step while lazy Christians are more concerned with politics and taxes than converting the lost.
The problem with AMERICA is not rulings from the court but missing the call of scripture to be salt and light while making disciples for the Kingdom.
We major on minors… our hands IN CHURCH are filthy.
When the church WON’T be the REAL devil chasing, anointed, disciplined organism that Jesus died for and called his bride, then we cannot act surprised with the unsaved and undelivered act in ways that are nonbiblical.
That’s my opinion…
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Righteousness exalts a nation, But sin is a reproach to any people. Proverbs 14:34
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The fall of our once great nation is now in clear view. The Church had its chance, but instead chose to sleep rather than arise.
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My Take On The Supreme Court Ruling On Marriage: As I was reading through facebook, I saw the vitriol expresse… http://t.co/MFfj5L6oDx
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Very well said!????????????????????
I know the Bible is RIGHT, somebody is WRONG! I also don’t like what you wrote and I’m not going to befriend you because I love you with the Love of the Lord.
Truth is still truth… nobody is debating the bible but where was all the outrage and commentary before today back when the court ruled on sodomy… that was the sin not marriage… Edd if the law is they can be cow pokes what is the REAL difference… all that I mentioned is true and called an abomination, where is the outcry?
Edd — James’s point is not that gay marriage is a good thing. It is that gay marriage is the next logical and necessary step in a cultural collapse that the Church has brought upon itself, because of its neglect of its prophetic role in culture. Anybody who has followed our discussions knows that the disagreements between James and me are profound on many issues. However, on this issue, James is absolutely on point. Gay marriage was not imposed upon us by an apostate Court. We did it. We were silent in the face of evil for a hundred years, and now we reap the whirlwind. Well said, brother James.
There’s so much truth here! Thank you.
EXACTLY RIGHT J. Neil
Amen!
Bishop Ifeelgod James Brown, I don’t think Christian really understand what this Really means… It means our Redemption draws nigh… That’s what He said … ..
Very well put!
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And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Thanks Nicole , Tammie, Vernadine, LionsChick and Charlie
I stand for truth…. truth stands whether we believe it or not. Right is Right and Wrong is Wrong no genders needed. Sin is Sin. God is moving in the midst of it all.
Amen
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I agree with u bro where is theLove and respect
I totally agree. You hit the nail right on the head. I applaud you for saying so.
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THE END TIMES
So right Apostle, honey, because we have let the faucet drip so that now we have a flood & the church is still not watching, fighting nor praying.
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Come on here! This warrants reposting.
Go for it Pastor James Etta
Thanks Bishop Ifeelgod James Brown. For you’re very educated and diverse…. I couldn’t say it like you….but I agree with you!!!!
Love you, but I am not buying into your definition of Christianity as devil chasing, anointed, disciplined organism that Jesus died for and called his bride, then we cannot act surprised with the unsaved and undelivered act in ways that are nonbiblical. My God and my Christ are all about love, grace, and forgiveness….not painting pictures of fear, hatred and abominations. Thank God!
Actually, it is well written and on point! The World will always be the World! One reason they have power is we are sometimes to focused upon worldly things! We need to repair the breaches and focus on getting ourselves right! Then a God will hear our prayers!
We Have Become Sugar. Sweet But No Flavor.
Kyev Tatum I told them in the revival 2 weeks ago from that same scripture reference. The church is salt, with sugar in it. Salt preserves but sugar melts.
We christians stopped being united (a church) a long time ago. The Pope used to approve MGM movies, back in the day. It all changed with the first kiss and the first curse, and today, the church is a subculture beneath the masses….
Oh, and christian marriage failed when we took church out of it with, “none of your business”, because we ARE supposed to be able to step in for abuse, negligence, etc… “for a season” because divorce is Mark 10: 1 – 12…..
Glory! This is the message for Sunday. We are on the same page.
Agreed
i had to hand it to you. you are telling the truth.
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Gotta share this Bishop I said just about same words tonight at prayer service
Bishop we need to find somebody to cast out some Devils ,do you remember you me and Bishop Young when we went to that lady house and she said those witches was flying around ?
Of course I do Pastor Sumberlin
A VERY WELL WRITTEN OPINION, THAT I AGREE WITH
Well said. If if takes this slap in the face of our God and entrenching on the church to force their perversion in the house of God – THEN WAKE UP BRIDE OF CHRIST — now or never. It’s TIME to STAND TOGETHER AND ROAR THE LION’S ROAR OF HOLINESS TO THE WORLD sitting in darkness.
#DropTheMic You are SO on point, my brilliant cousin Ifeelgod James Brown. Let ye who are without sin cast the first stone. There is no greater sin (from overeating to fornication and so much more). Butt for the grace of God! The last time I checked, I do believe God gave us ALL free will and the ability to make choices. James, you phrased this perfectly.
Well said!
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I think he’s missing the whole picture. America turning away from God. Christians are going to be persuaded and some put in jail. I don t have HBO, SHOWTIME or any paid premium channel in my home. I don’t have porn in my home
Linda MY point is that America started that slide Looong before yesterday. Moreover because the church has abandoned God’s heart in favor of tax cuts and politics at the expense of souls, deliverence, and righteous living WITHIN THE CHURCH. When we surrender, as we have, the platform of righteous living in house we have lost any standing to model how nonbelievers live. We have NOT been the first partakers of the fruit we want others to partake of… you may not have premium channels but over 75% of your church likely does. No telling how many watch modern family.
No the Court’s action simply confirms our ineffectiveness in being like Christ as we decided that rather than being salt and light we became sugar and spice. No anointing, no discipline, no integrity, and a attitude of self righteousness not seen since the pharasees and saducees.
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I don’t believe God was pleased. He destroyed the world 2 times for this very same thing. He hate homosexuality. America will feel his wrath.
From a dear friend….sums it up nicely, but you guys can keep on focusing on the incorrect thing. My fellow Believers. I try to say little on this topic because it is so inflammatory. Be aware that if the comment thread turns into a debate I will take this post down, not because I am afraid of you or convicted by you but because I won’t allow anything that may be hurtful to those I care about on my feed.
Ask yourselves why people seem to be so much more eager to confront that which makes them uncomfortable than that which harms the helpless.
If you weep for the future of America because consenting adults who love one another are allowed the same legal rights as you, I weep for the state of your soul. When did Jesus address the government and its decisions? When did He ask us to hate or fear or condemn that which is different? I won’t debate the scriptures that supposedly condemn homosexuality here because I lack the time or the energy and I really don’t think it will change anyone’s mind. I will remind you that Jesus only confronted those who knew the law and condemned those they saw as lawbreakers even though they were themselves imperfect.
Sound familiar? Because I’m seeing a lot of Pharisee-like posts.
They knew the scriptures, and quoted them correctly, just like you.
They were sure they had a good handle on what it said was right and wrong. Just like you.
They were focusing on entirely the wrong thing.
Think about it.
Yes, God hates sin… But the Church needs to actively reach out to sinners. Governments will do what they do. I agree with this article, we need to focus on being the Church, clean up our house, and reach out! Why do we act surprised that the world behaves as they do? By the way, our country, it’s government, and its citizens are the world.
“I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.” -Thomas Jefferson
Love Jefferson even if he did dabble his slaves.
Linda how many things are listed as abominations in scripture? Of those how many are welcomed and accepted in the church as a whole?
If we believe what we preach, that there are no big and little sins in the eyes of God, we have to realize 2 things.
The first is our judgement and correction, as well as, his wrath will be focused on the church for our failures, not at sinners who we have failed to reach because of our laziness, greed, and the hypocrisy of OUR lifestyles.
And second, the acceptance of the abominations we accept from brothers and sisters in the church would make Christians around the world, not just America, subject to the same rath because he is just.
I believe that the court, the government, and their rulings and actions are not the problem. The problem lies directly at the cloistered door step of the church which has failed to be salt or light.
We major on the minors like tax reform, profit and loss, and who gets a jet while we ignore souls without hope.
The turning from God is not a indictment of the government, rather it is an indictment of the rebellion of the church which has regressed from being a fighting force against evil to a civic club devoid of anointing, power, and mission.
There is not but one thing that God has destroyed the world 2 times for and that is HOMOSEXUALITY!! According to my Bible he hated it enough to destroy the world with the flood and then the whole city except The man LOT. That tells me something.
Linda it was NOT TWICE but two cities. Where was your indignation when sodomy was legalized? If there is a problem it did not find its Genesis here in America with the ruling of yesterday. But the cause of that problem lies at the effectiveness and passion of the church… how many have you worked with to show the love of Christ IN SPITE OF their codition?
God destroyed the whole world with the flood.
The flood was about ALL sin Linda not just homosexuality. When he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah he did not destroy the whole world either
Linda Where was your indignation when sodomy was legalized? If there is a problem it did not find its Genesis here in America with the ruling of yesterday. But the cause of that problem lies at the effectiveness and passion of the church… how many have you worked with to show the love of Christ IN SPITE OF their codition?
What about all the people voting for Dems that are for same-sex marriage and abortion. They are the ones that got sodomy legalized. They have turned against everything that is Christian and people that call themselves Christians just keep voting for them. There is no way I could vote for someone that believed in killing babies and same- sex marriage but they will and go to church and act like big Christians. I think God will spit them out of his mouth and condemn them just as the ones that did the act n
Enough said.
Linda you appear blind to the fact and still talking politics when the real issues are conversion and discipleship. While we church folks argue what is Christian and what is not unbelievers are acting like unbelievers because the church is now chiefly composed of Christians with sinner problems. We can cover our heads and ,like you, ignore the fact that we are failing to offer a solution that is accessible to the masses because we are immature and petty, consuming God’s grace on our lust. This is not a problem that is the world’s but is the churches. Until we can show the benifit of biblical living we relegate The Church to a whinning mess of self centered do nothings that offer no hope or deliverance… WAKE UP
Finally, it must be emphasized that religions, and those
who adhere to religious doctrines, may continue to advocate
with utmost, sincere conviction that, by divine precepts,
same-sex marriage should not be condoned. The
First Amendment ensures that religious organizations and
persons are given proper protection as they seek to teach
the principles that are so fulfilling and so central to their
lives and faiths, and to their own deep aspirations to
continue the family structure they have long revered. The
same is true of those who oppose same-sex marriage for
other reasons. In turn, those who believe allowing samesex
marriage is proper or indeed essential, whether as a
matter of religious conviction or secular belief, may engage
those who disagree with their view in an open and searching
debate. The Constitution, however, does not permit
the State to bar same-sex couples from marriage on the
same terms as accorded to couples of the opposite sex.
Linda I repeat my questions to you … Where was your indignation when sodomy was legalized? And … how many have you worked with to show the love of Christ IN SPITE OF their codition?
That is the supreme court decision page 27
funny We had the freedom to Choose Christ and we want to shove our values down peoples throat. You chose Christ over something else cause you were free to do so. why the next man cant have the same freedom Jesus is still a choice
It’s just the end of time. The world is shaping up for the return of Jesus and the Antchrist to be revealed. Israel is surrounded by enemies that want to destroy her and America has turned away from Israel with Obama’s help. God will come back and fight Israel’s fight. I just pray everyday and read my Bible and make sure I’m ready to meet Jesus when he comes or if my time comes first.
James Brown I don’t talk about this much but I have a family member that is a homosexual but I still stand firm on my convictions. So don’t tell me nothing about the pain you have to go thru for your convictions.
Linda I stand by biblical convictions but that has nothing to do with personal intimate direct ministry. That requires more than talk. Talking love is just talk. Wake up, get up and get involved with the lost instead of just pontificating
Linda this is for you! Btw, don’t recall complaining at all about what I go thru for ministry… are you under conviction? Sounds like it … if so, repent and get busy …
And you wont win nobody preaching at them they will know you are my disciples if you have Love. The love of God for us should be the love of God in us UNCONDITIONAL
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Robert it looks like Linda bailed on us. Talk is always quite easy till asked about change you are doing instead of vocal excercise…. smh
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Church is full of folks talking about the power and seeing none….
One sin is not greater than the other. Just SIN period God hates.
I do not and still do not understand the ruling of same sex marrisges. The only I can say is The devil hates what God loves. God love unity and reproducing. Two people of the same kind can not reproduce anything. The world stop, the world cannot go on. It is just plain nasty to me. What is the world coming to?
I agree with you James 100%
I had to share your post!
Great Latanya
even ANIMALS have more sense..
Praise God for you, Bishop! I’m in agreement…and laying 100% of the blame at the “church door.” Too much “easy grace” and not enough of “thus saith the Lord.”
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I too had to share your post Pastor. Thank you for speaking your heart.
Why is it everyone wants to blame Obama @ everything first of all Israel turned against Jehovah so you need to read your Bible and what do that have to do with Obama anyway
Darlene I am not blaming the President
All I have to say is…”We are living in the last days. All of these things are the signs and wonders that are written in the HOLY Bible. Ifeelgod James Brown, we are the voices crying in the wilderness and the mouth piece to re-state the word of God. That is our job right now. These things must happen. God’s word never said who it would happen to. We have already been told, so let’s just brace ourselves for the end. For those who are as “The 5 wise virgins” remain steadfast in the Lord. For those who are as “The 5 foolish virgins” prepare for judgement. Matthew 25:2 in the Holy Bible, will explain. If you care about your soul…read it. #Iamdonefornowonthissubject
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Amen! Brother! Most people today Christian or non Christian do not take stand when they should and refuse to speak when they should and when they should take action and are called to take action to change things for the better they refuse to do so. Most people rather be part of the problem rather than be part of the solution. There are many so called Christian’s who are more frequently in total disobedient to the Lord and when called even by Him to speak up, they remain silent, when the are called to take a stand, they refuse to do so, and when they are told to take action they do not. My attitude has become, if you refuse to be part of the solution and rather continue to be part of the problem, then get out of my way because I would rather take action, speak up and do what is right and be a part of the solution when every else around me rather be part of the problem.